For coaching and leadership clients who are looking for something epic, and more unique than run-of-the-mill executive coaching, I offer guided Epic Adventures in the wilderness. In this video, I share about the first instruction I share with my Epic clients when our backpacks are on, we’re standing at the trailhead, about to embark on our expedition.
This message isn’t profound but its implementation can be. Do you have a pebble in your shoe? Is there an issue or harmful behavior that is making your life more difficult? Is there a secret you’re keeping? Is there a change you need to make that you’re not making? Is there a brutal truth about yourself that you’re not confronting? A difficult conversation you’re needing to have with someone you love or lead that you’re not having? An important change you’re not ready to make?
Whatever it is, I challenge you to tend to it. It is difficult work, but not nearly as difficult as the situation we may find ourselves in down the road, years later, perhaps even a lifetime later at which point it will be so much worse, and even hard. We will wished we would had taken the time and made the effort to tend to the pebble sooner, when we still had the chance. (By the way, I know–I shouldn’t be chewing gum while talking to a video camera. At least I won’t come across as more polished than I am. LOL.)
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The German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche said, “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
Certainly, that been the case for me. In the last 10 years, I’ve walked 26,000 miles, and in the process, I’ve had some truly great thoughts.
One of my best truly great thoughts came while hiking 11 years ago and it would become my inspiration for starting Epic Life Inc. I imagined a program that would use the wilderness as a platform from which people could practice doing the hard work, and developing the skills that living one’s epic life, and/or being an impactful leader require. I call such experiences “Epics,” and they are more than just a guided outdoor adventure.
Recently, I had the honor of being a guest on a podcast called Outside In. The podcast is brought to us by world-class experience designers Joel Krieger and Pavani Yalla. The episode of my conversation with them is called The Wilderness Inside and I hope you’ll listen to it.
The conversation with Joel and Pavani was enlivening for me. Due to their curiosity and terrific questions, they captured in our conversation my “Epics” mission better than I have been able to articulate in the almost 11 years I’ve been creating and providing them.
If you listen to it and/or share it, I thank you with all of my heart.
I have walked/hiked 26,000 miles in the last 10 years. Some of those miles have been logged hiking this favorite training route in my backyard, the foothills of Wyoming’s Wind River Range.
Sometimes my life probably appears to be perfect. Especially on Facebook. It’s not perfect, but at least right now, my life is pretty amazing. (For what it’s worth, everything I post on Facebook is true; I don’t work to make my life look better than it is.)
That said, I’m human, and like everyone, I suffer depressive moments and hardships. (If I had been active on Facebook 10-12 years ago, my posts would look very different from my posts these days. Actually, unless I’m asked, I don’t like to talk about my problems, so probably I would have been “hiding,” and not very visible on Facebook back then.)
Josh Waitzkin, a former chess champion, and author of the awesome book, The Art of Learning, once said in an interview, “There is no such thing as good weather or bad weather, only weather.” The same could be said for life. It’s full of depressions and celebrations. Nobody’s life is perfect, not even my current one, which, as I said, feels amazing.
When I share with coaching clients, or friends, or groups I present to about my vulnerabilities, failures and about why my current blessed life is “hard earned,” people often respond with surprise – and relief. They wouldn’t have guessed my life was me-sy because unless you’re one of the aforementioned, you often don’t see that part of the “profile.” So this blog post will share about something near and dear to me – the importance of daring to fail, and in sometimes failing, including some of my messier parts. (There is a lot more where this came from, and I’m happy to share more personally if you’d email me and request it.)
One of my darkest times was during a time when I had so much to celebrate… We had sold our company of 15 years to a company I respected, and suddenly I had time, additional security, and very importantly, the opportunity to reinvent myself.
When I suddenly had time, and my pause button was pushed, I found I had a lot of hard personal truths to confront. Such as: I was overweight, sedentary, addicted to technology, drinking wine on too many weeknights, and depressed. For two years, every night after Jerry and the boys were asleep I’d beat myself up (in the form of self loathing) about the fact I let another day go by without taking a step to improve my health, and to get re-engaged in my family and my life. To get conscious again. This self loathing stemmed from a feeling of deep regret – for not taking action at something that could be life-altering, and that, in fact, was in my control.
I share this because I don’t know about you, but for me, nothing motivates me more than my not wanting to have any regrets. I’ve been there, and it was paralyzing, and an awful place to be.
I have recovered from the earlier bout of regret and self loathing, but life will always have some mess and heartbreak and hardship in it. I know this. It is for certain.
While I’m healthy and hopefully only midway through my life, for all I know, I may not wake up tomorrow. So I’m not going to take any chances. I think one of the hardest things any of can do is dare to live the life we are yearning to live – our life, not the life others expect us to live. Not a life where we play it safe. In fact, ironically I think we can risk our life by not living it. (One of the greatest regrets of the dying is that they didn’t have the courage to live their life, rather than a life others expected them to live, or a life that was safer and easier.)
Speaking of regret, when you talk to people who are approaching the end of their life, and you ask them, “What, if anything, do you regret?” most of the time, they list the things they didn’t do that they wish they could do that they can no longer do. In other words, they regret their inactions more than their actions.
What is something you’re wanting to do, but you’re not doing because you’re afraid? Take a minute and think about that. I know there is at least something that will come to mind if you’re honest with yourself.
Despite a range of life and work experiences, and expertise, I don’t consider myself an expert on anything. But I love to learn, and, I am pretty good at it. And thanks to the more than 200 individuals I’ve coached in the last six years, including the 100+ people I’ve led on wilderness adventures, I’ve learned a lot.
Here is one of the most important things I’ve learned: The number one reason we don’t do the things we want, need, or could do is because we are afraid. When I ask people, What are you afraid of? Almost always I hear, “That I will fail.” And when I drill down even further and ask, What do you mean by fail?, One or more of these are what I almost always here in response:
-I’m afraid I will fail. The thing will not be success, and I may not be able to recover.
-I’m afraid I will disappoint others.
-I’m afraid I will disappoint myself.
-I’m afraid I’ll look bad or that I’ll make a fool out of myself. I’m afraid I won’t know what I am doing, and that I won’t have what it takes.
By the way, I use all of the above excuses, too. I have things to share on each of these, including some things I’ve never shared publicly before, so I hope you’ll read on. Thanks in advance if you do.
I’m afraid I will fail. The thing will not be success, and I may not be able to recover.
Well, first off, we learn more from our failures than successes. There’s the saying, “Win or Lose” and “You win some and you lose some.” I can’t recall who said this, but someone suggested we change those sayings to “Win or Learn,” and “You win some and you learn some.” I love the suggested modifications.
I have written about it before, but as an adult, my first significant failure was losing my Division I basketball scholarship at University of Montana. I just wasn’t good enough, and the coach told me this much, and my scholarship went to a more capable player. I’m 52 now, and while I know a basketball scholarship is not a big deal, at the time, when I was just 21, it was a big deal. It was devastating. Feeling like a failure, and far from home, I suddenly found myself without a map. You can read the blog post about that, but, in short, as a result of that failure, I started hiking, I started spending time in solitude, first out of necessity but later out of desire, and I fell in love with reading. It was 28 years ago that I lost my scholarship, and for the past several years, hiking, solitude and reading have been tremendous sources of inspiration for me, and are critical components of my work and mission here at Epic Life Inc. I don’t think these three things would have become important, or that my life would be as amazing as it is today, had I continued riding the bench and having basketball play such a big part of my life. So, like so many people would say of their failures when looking back at them, my first significant failure turned out to be one of my biggest blessings.
I have also failed financially. My husband, Jerry, and I, got into deep personal financial struggles early in our marriage. In 1995, year three of our marriage, we had racked up almost $40,000 in personal credit card debt. In the beginning we joked that the debt was worthwhile because the the start of our debt had accumulated as a result of our using credit cards to pay for long distance phone bills and plane tickets during our two year, long-distance courtship from 1990-1992. But by 1995, it was no joke. We weren’t laughing, but crying. We sold our first home, and downsized to a very tiny and humble (a little better than a shack) of a house. It took a lot of humility to do that, but we were determined to turn things around for ourselves. It took four years, but we were able to fix up the small house, and pay off our debt with the equity from its sale. Today, we have financial skills we would not have developed if not for that financial failure early on in our marriage and partnership. It was during those financial struggles that Jerry and I committed to eating out only one time a month. Now, more than 20 years later, and the parents of three sons, ages 13, 18, and 20, except for when we’re traveling, we still hold fast to that rule, along with other restraints and financial habits we developed only as a result of overcoming our financial failures. Oh, and today, I am happy to report that we are free of debt.
We also had many failures along our way to success with our first business, Yellowstone Journal Corporation and YellowstonePark.com. We started that company in 1995. The first year we generated a whopping $18,000 in revenue. Over the course of 15 years, we failed a lot, and ate a lot of bread and water for meals, but we always recovered stronger and wiser, and eventually sold the company in 2008 to Active Interest Media.
Now I’m in my 6th year of our second venture, Epic Life Inc, and while being an entrepreneur and running and growing my own business is challenging, I’m so much wiser as a result of all of the struggles during the first go-round, and I’m more resilient when I do run into struggles or failures.
I’m often hired as a keynote presenter and/or speaker. (I prefer to call myself an inspired speaker rather than a motivational speaker) Often people will come up to me after my presentation, and ask how they can do the same work as I do, to which I respond by saying, “I’m a 30-year overnight success.” None of what I have has come easy, and I would argue that most of what’s great in my work and my life has come largely as a result of daring to fail, failing often, and learning more, and developing into a better person and leader as a result of both the daring to to fail, and the failures.
And if we’re committed to fulfilling our potential and to a self actualizing life, we must acknowledge that we will never have arrived. Life is one big journey that is full of both depths and heights.
Along those lines, I am happy(?) to report I’m currently as fallible as ever. In fact, just last year, while leading my flagship program, the Epic Women Wind River backpacking adventure, I made a leadership error. Even after years of leading expeditions and having expertise and knowing better, I made an unexpected mistake. The learning is never over, and I have learned to be humble enough to know this, and to learn as much as I can when I do fail.
I gave up Facebook for 30 days, and “failed” on at least four days when I found myself – you guessed it – on Facebook. I caught myself almost immediately, but only after a little perusing…
I fail as a parent, and as a wife, on a regular basis. I have failed in friendships, and other relationships. I I am likely failing at a couple of things right now, today…
Finally, one final item to share under the “I’m afraid I will fail” excuse. I led a Mt. Whitney co-ed expedition for 10 men and women a few years back. I partnered with a guiding company in the Sierras. Well, as a long-time adventurer, and adventure guide, if I’ve learned anything, it’s that seldom does an adventure go exactly as planned. But my co-ed Epic Whitney expedition had all kinds of challenges. The weather was a huge factor. By the time our 4-day expedition came to an end, we had gone from Plan A, to Plan B, to Plan C and finally to Plan D, which didn’t look anything like our Plan A.
Mt. Whitney. The summit was a No Go.
The year before, during the exact same dates, I went on the same expedition with Backpacker Magazine as part of a Summit for Someone fundraiser for Big City Mountaineers. Everything went better than planned. It went so well that we spent almost 2 hours lounging like marmots under a blue sky on Whitney’s summit. The expedition was inspiring, and it was also a blast. But can you guess which Mt. Whitney expedition developed me more as a leader and as a person? Hands down the second one that went through 4 iterations, and involved 60mph wind gusts, winter blizzards and below zero wind chill – oh, and not standing on top of a mountain. To be sure, we wouldn’t choose these failures, but I personally wouldn’t trade them for anything.
As my partner in the Mt. Whitney expedition so eloquently stated, “The journey is for the soul, the summit is for the ego.” Cheers to the journey, which will almost certainly include some failing.
And trust me, the best, most impactful people and business leaders fail often. They’re not special. They aren’t immune to failure, and in fact, they have the same fears we do.
But don’t just take my word for it – take Adam Grant’s. Grant is the author of two of my favorite leadership books, Give and Take, and Originals. He is also the top-rated professor at Wharton Business School. (Check out these Ted talks, Are You a Giver or a Taker? and The Surprising Habits of Original Thinkers.) While researching and writing Originals, Grant sat down with some of the most original entrepreneurs of our time, including Larry Page, Elon Musk, Jack Dorsey and Mark Cuban. Grant writes, “When I asked them to take me back to the early days, they caught me off guard. They all felt the same fear of failure that the rest of us do. They just responded to it differently.
“When most of us fear failure, we walk away from our boldest ideas. Instead of being original, we play it safe… But great entrepreneurs have a different response to the fear of failure. Yes, they’re afraid of failing, but they’re even more afraid of failing to try.”
Grant was talking about business when he wrote the above, but it applies to our personal endeavors too. All entrepreneurs are human beings, after all.
By the way, I’m even more inspired by a person’s willingness to be brave and vulnerable than I am by his or her greatness. Daring to fail takes daring, and that daring is inspiring to witness. When we dare to fail, we inspire others to dare to fail.
I remember an expedition where we climbed four mountains. One man had never climbed a mountain before, and I hiked right in front or behind him on the first mountain we climbed. The climb took several hours. Every single step the man took was full of fear. His fear was palpable. He was stepping out of his comfort zone and into his potential thousands and thousands of times during what was a 10-hour effort.
Climbing mountains in high winds, on loose terrain and in a blizzard.
The late Abraham Maslow, an American psychologist who developed ideas related to the “hierarchy of needs,” said, “In any given moment we have two options: to step forward into growth or to step back into safety.”
When we dare to fail, we’re stepping forward into growth. We’re not playing it safe. We’re showing up even though we’re scared, and we’re not playing small. We’re afraid, and we’re proceeding anyway.
One final and important bit about failure. Let’s not be reckless. I’m not recommending being reckless in our daring to fail. No, we must dare to fail with tremendous care. When I work with leaders who are about to launch a new program or product, or who are considering making a major change, we often do an exercise called a pre-mortem. This is basically the act of articulating and writing down your worst fears, the worst case scenarios. I do this same work with my life coaching clients. Often, just by acknowledging and listing our fears, we realize they aren’t as great as we were previously making them out to be. But just as important as acknowledging worst case scenarios, is our need to have ideas for what we do should any of our our worst fears come true.
I recently watched Alex Honnold present here in my hometown of Lander, WY, about his solo climb of El Capitan with no rope. His is an astonishing feat, and it was incredible to see him in person and to meet him. Honnold was saying that in preparation for the challenge (where the stakes are literally his life), he invested significant time climbing the route, and memorizing the moves for the entire 3,000-foot-long route. After the presentation, I went up to Honnold, and asked him more about his process. He explained that he not only rehearsed and memorized the moves of the route, but also visualized and imagined all the “what could go wrongs,” so that on the day of the big event, he felt ready and not afraid.
Finally, I think we ought to look back on our life and our work path, and look for, and reflect on our “failures.” Think of one of them, and examine it for lessons you learned, and how that failure may be continuing to inform your life in a positive way. Rinse and repeat. In my experience, this is such fascinating, and useful work, not to mention we can make all kinds of new discoveries about ourselves, and our life.
These failures make for such interesting stories, and they can help and inspire others when we share them.
A Princeton professor, Johannes Haushofer, published a CV listing his career failures on Twitter, in an attempt to “balance the record.” I think keeping a “resume of failures” is a brilliant idea. Otherwise a resume or CV doesn’t tell the whole story. “Every resume and bio that you put together is basically just stringing one success next to another, and we erase all the failures in between,” explains Adam Grant, who keeps a resume of failures after being inspired by Haushofer.
I’m afraid I will disappoint others
First off, the feeling of disappointment is one of my least favorite. And I care deeply about people. So the threat of causing others disappointment is a legitimate and understandable fear.
Good human beings, which describes everyone I know and work with, are always concerned about others. They care for people, and don’t want to disappoint them or let them down. As a result, we often don’t do things we want, need or could do because we just can’t bear to risk letting others down.
But I’ve learned that those “others” in our world, whether they’re our friends, family members, co-workers, or colleagues, prefer that we take chances. They trust we’ll give it our best and that we’re not out to disappoint them.
Think about your friends, family, co-workers and colleagues for a minute. Do you think they’d prefer you take chances and try things that are challenging that will make you better and smarter and more fulfilled, or do you think they’d prefer you play it safe and play small and take no chances.
Marianne Williamson has a great quote that is probably famous because it rings true for so many of us, even if its truth can be inconvenient: “Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, ‘Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?’ Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.”
I’m afraid I will disappoint myself
I said at the beginning that I don’t consider myself an expert at anything. I want to take that back. I’m an expert at self criticism. I’m a master at it. I’m very hard on myself, and my expectations for myself are often so high that they’re unachievable.
I’m here to report that almost 100% of the people I’ve coached, or led into the wilderness on adventures, tend to be self critical. We often don’t see this in the people we know or admire. On the outside they appear strong and confident. I bet I appear strong and confident. But inside, there’s a whole different story being told.
I’ve taken many leaders up mountains they didn’t know how to climb. As hard as it is for them to climb a mountain they don’t know how to climb, there’s one thing that’s even harder: Fighting the personal narrative that is often, during times of struggle, a negative one. Most of us battle the inner critic, self doubts that flood our minds when we’re doing something hard that we’re not certain we can do. It’s that voice that’s yelling at us inside, right in the crux of our struggle, saying things like: “You gotta quit! You’re going to die! You look like a fool! You’re holding people up. Whose idea was this? You can’t do this. What were you thinking?” And on and on and on. Fill in the blank with your own inner critic monologue.
Stanford University psychologist Kelly McGonigal has done a lot of research and work related to self criticism. I listened to a series of audio files by her a few years back and found her work about self criticism and self compassion to be informative and hopeful. In short, McGonigal says self criticism is not motivating. We just tell ourselves that it is. We think that if we give ourselves a good butt-kicking, it will motivate us to do more and better. But McGonigal says it’s just not true. She argues that self compassion is more motivating.
Loving ourselves, although that should be a top priority for all of us, can seem like too big of a stretch for those of us who are self critical. Self compassion is a better first step, I think.
There’s that wonderful saying, “Treat others as you’d like to be treated.” I endorse this message. But I’ve added my own twist, that I often share with people I work with and care about, and that is: “Treat yourself the way you’d like to treat others.” This constructive behavior toward self during struggle and doubt can make the challenging experiences in our life and work more tolerable and, in the end, more worthwhile. It can also be the difference between quitting and hanging in there when we really, really want to hang in there.
So many times when I’m leading a person up a mountain, or through any wilderness situation that’s challenging, a person who is struggling will be encouraging to all of those around her or him, while inside unleashing the wrath of the criticism on himself or herself. Like I said, these same people are often loving and supportive and compassionate to others. So we know how to encourage. We have that skill. We simply have to turn that skill onto ourselves, and when we do, it makes all the difference. It’s not easy work, but it’s worthwhile work.
One final thought on this fear of disappointing our self… There’s a quote by Terry Tempest Williams, from her wonderful book, The Hour of Land and it is, “Wilderness is an antidote to the war within ourselves.” Hear Hear. One of the main reasons I love using the wilderness as a platform from which my clients can practice doing the hard work that living our epic life and being our best requires is because in the wilderness we can’t run from our self. We can’t hide. During adversity, we are forced to confront our inner critic. In real time, during those struggles, we learn new, gentler, more compassionate ways to be with our self that then carry over into other areas of our lives after the adventure has ended.
The last thing I want to say on this fear of disappointing ourselves, is often the disappointment we have in ourselves is a result of the comparing we do. We compare ourselves to those around us, and then we are disappointed when we don’t measure up. We need to stop comparing. Theodore Roosevelt said, “Comparison is the thief of joy.” Byron Katie says, “Without comparison, our life is perfect.” If you want to be disappointed or miserable, just start comparing yourself, and your life, to others.
Finally, in my experience, we are much more likely to be disappointed in ourselves when we don’t do the thing we are yearning to do than when we dare to do it.
Designer, author and professor Debbie Millman said something on a recent podcast interview that I haven’t quit thinking about. She asked this question: What are you more afraid of – regret or rejection? Regret will be my answer every time. I think Millman’s is a great question to think about.
I’m afraid I’ll make a fool out of myself. I don’t know what I am doing. I’m afraid I’ll look bad
My friend, Trevor Ragan, perhaps says it best. He says “Getting better and looking good don’t happen at the same time.” Amen to that. Let’s just acknowledge this fact, and agree to look bad every now and then so we can get better. Deal? I’m in.
When I recall all the times I feared I would look like a fool, and/or did look like a fool, I can’t help but think of when I decided I wanted to learn how to skate ski. I didn’t take a lesson; I just rented the gear and went to our local golf course where there were groomed trails. I’m athletic, but skate skiing is very physically demanding and technically challenging to learn. I had not a clue what to do and I fell no fewer than 1oo times in an hour. It was ugly, and painful, and it was humiliating. But I’m so glad I did that. I’ve been skate skiing for six years now and it’s one of the reasons I love, and can tolerate our long winters.
So daring to fail means being willing to look bad.
As I mentioned before, I’ve led people up mountains who didn’t know how to climb a mountain. In July of 2013, I led my first Epic Women backpacking program. On Day 2, we let the eight women – none who had ever climbed a mountain – lead us up a tall mountain. They didn’t have mountain climbing skills, or experience at high altitudes. The process was therefore laborious, and the women were at times apprehensive. The ascent took longer than if the guides or I led us up the mountain. And, our chances of summiting were lower also, since summit attempts are limited by changing weather so the longer the effort takes, the lower the chance we’ll be able to continue toward the summit. But if the goal is to develop the women’s skills and leadership, then it’s worth it. We made it to the top, and the result was not only the accomplishment of standing on the summit, but even more importantly, each woman, and our entire expedition team was more than we were before.
I’m coaching two people who have cancer. It is meaningful work, and I want to do more of this work. But often, during a call with one of these people, I find myself telling myself, “I don’t know how to do this.” I don’t, but I’m listening and I’m giving it my best. I am learning by daring to fail.
Daring to fail, even though it means risking looking bad, and looking like a fool, and stumbling our way through, is about becoming actually what we are potentially.
I think it was Charlie Chaplin who said, “Failure is unimportant. It takes courage to make a fool of yourself.”
But my favorite quote for this section of the blog post is something said by my friend, the late Todd Skinner, who was a world-famous, big wall climbing legend, and an amazing human being: “We cannot lower the mountain, therefore we must elevate ourselves.” The best way to learn how to do something is to dare to do it, even if you don’t know how to do it.
In closing, I want to go back to something I said earlier in the post.
When you talk to people who are approaching the end of their life, and you ask them, “What, if anything, do you regret?”, do you know how most of them respond? Most of the time, they list the things they didn’t do that they wish they could do that they can no longer do. They regret their inactions more than their action. They regret the things they did not do.
This is so important for us to remember. Let’s not be sorry for not doing something we wanted to do because we were afraid.
Here’s to all of us daring to fail more often. Here’s to leading a more fulfilling life. Here’s to having more interesting stories to share. And finally, here’s to not having any regrets – now, or in the end!
Thank you so much for reading.
Part of my work is keynote presenting. I’m hired by organizations or events to deliver my keynote presentation, “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field.” I also provide leadership development training and facilitation. One of the workshops I’m most passionate about is DARE TO FAIL. I also have a little availability right now for coaching if you or anyone you know would like to have someone dare, support and hold them accountable in making some positive changes in their life or leadership.
Email me if you’d like to learn more about any of these offerings. Thanks!
I’m offering free exploratory calls during this challenging and uncertain time to anyone who is looking to make some changes to their life and who might like to work with me as a coach. Email me at coach@yourepiclife.com to schedule a call.
Hi! I hope you are healthy and well during this challenging and uncertain time.
It is easy to feel anxious and even hopeless during this COVID-19 public health crisis. It is impacting every aspect of our lives. But it is also a time when we see so much good in humanity. Thank you, more than I can say, to medical workers, doctors and nurses, first responders, and all who are helping our sick and keeping things going (while risking their own health and lives) during this difficult time. And for those of you who have lost loved ones to Coronavirus, I’m so very sorry for your loss.
The compassion and generosity by so many are cause for optimism. Here’s a short video I recorded a few days ago. I hope you’ll watch it and consider sharing it. Thanks for stopping by, and I wish you and the people you know and love good health and strength during this time.
Hi! My name is Shelli Johnson. I started Epic Life Inc. nine years ago. I offer a wide range of services and programs, and the following is an overview of most of them. (If you’d like to know more about me as you consider my programs or working with me, there’s a bio at the end of this page.)
The following are programs and services I offer, with some information about each.
EPIC MIDLIFE WOMEN: “Navigating the Wilds of Midlife”
Presenting to the Fiat Chrysler Women’s Leadership Summit.
Are you a woman in the middle of your life? If so, you may agree with me when I say the struggle is real. While midlife is a meaningful and beautiful stage of life–a time of harvest and reaping the benefits of years of striving, raising children (or not), overcoming challenges, making memories, and more–it can also be a hard and disorienting time.
It’s a time when our body is changing. And it’s no joke! We are approaching, or have arrived at, the end of our reproductive years. We experience physiological and psychological changes that can make it feel like all hell is breaking loose. These symptoms can last 4-12 years for women. (Note: Not all women struggle in perimenopause/midlife. There are some who sail through this stage without incident. I just don’t know any of them.)
Are you floundering a bit? Do you feel like you’re entering a new land–a wilderness–and it’s difficult to see a path through?
Thankfully, we have lots of places to look to for help as we find our way through “the wilds of midlife.” The most helpful “medicine” I’ve found so far for the challenges of perimenopause and all things midlife–of all of the solutions I’ve purchased or tried–has been connecting with other women. I have found support and guidance from the women in my life, including my mother, my sisters and my friends, and all of the women I have coached or worked with who are experiencing midlife or who have gone before me and made it to the other side of The Change. I find tremendous comfort in the meaningful conversations and intimate sharing of knowledge and experiences that result when women in midlife are together.
So I would like to facilitate more of that, and the Epic Midlife Women program is my effort to do that. This will be a gathering of 18-24 women. (Due to limited space, I’m targeting women who are in their 40s and 50s for this program.) This program will be a departure from my usual programs that are typically in the wilderness. This one will be at a spa & resort in Las Vegas. I will kick off the gathering with my “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field” presentation. This is the presentation I’m hired to give to inspire women’s leadership groups, corporations, and at various conferences. It will inspire you to take stock of your life and “prime” you to get the most from our time together. Then, each day there will be about a half of a day of programming related to women in their midlife. For part of one day, we’ll travel offsite to a beautiful natural destination, and there will also be a moon ceremony one evening.
In addition to the programming, I will facilitate meaningful conversation, and the sharing of knowledge and experiences will be a huge benefit for all of us. There will also be a great deal of sharing, and learning–and no topic will be off-limits. This program will be inspiring, meaningful, purposeful and fun.
WHEN: Thursday, Feb. 27-Sunday, March 1.
WHERE: Las Vegas, NV, at a spa & resort (TBA)
WHO: Women who are in their 40s or 50s. (There are 18-24 spots available, and this program is being offered on a first-come, first-serve basis.)
COST:Email me for more information, pricing, and/or to schedule a call to learn more.
In the meantime, here’s a short and personal video invite:
(Note the dates are off by one day. The correct dates are Feb. 27-March 1):
This is my most popular program. Zion National Park is one of the most beautiful, inspiring and restorative natural wonders in the U.S. and one of my favorite places! With this program, you get to have your cake and eat it too. Enjoy challenging and inspiring epic hikes during the day and luxurious lodging at night. (I have also offered this program to Couples, Leadership teams, and custom groups.) This program comes bundled with three personal coaching calls in the months leading up to the Epic Adventure, three days of guided epic hikes, and 3 nights of luxurious lodging.
WHEN (2 date ranges): May 1-4, 2020 AND Sept. 10-13, 2020.
WHERE: Springdale, UT, near the entrance to Zion National Park. (You’ll fly into and out of Las Vegas, NV, and share a rental car with the others who sign up, and drive 2.5 hours to Zion National Park for the program.)
WHO: Women. (There are 6-8 spots available, and these programs are being offered on a first-come, first-serve basis.)
WHAT: Personal coaching in the months leading up to the Epic Adventure, training recommendations, the guided Epic Adventure (including 3 days of epic hiking) and 3 nights of accommodations.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:Email me for pricing, a brochure and to schedule a call to learn more.
This is my most “epic” program and it will change your life. This is for women in their 40s or 50s who are looking to crank it up and do something that will challenge and inspire you. This program is not for the faint of heart! It’s not a guided tour, but an opportunity that will push your limits and develop you in ways you can’t even imagine. You will carry everything you need to live in the wilderness for 5 days on your back. You’ll cross rivers, go off-trail, climb a mountain, sleep in a tent in a remote wilderness, and be inspired for the rest of your life by the scenery you travel through. I promise this will be one of the most unique and unforgettable experiences of your life. The adventure will also be fun, and you’ll make new and lasting friendships. A significant part of this program is the coaching I provide for you in the months leading up to the Epic Adventure. Our coaching and the deep, personal work we’ll do will “prime” you to get even more out of the Epic Adventure. I will also provide you with training tips and recommended workouts so you can physically prepare for this challenging mountain adventure.
WHEN: Adventure dates: July 27-31, 2020. (Program dates, including travel days: July 26-Aug. 1, 2020.)
WHERE: Start/End in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Our backpacking route will be in the wilderness of Wyoming’s Wind River Range. You will arrive in Jackson Hole, WY, by 12 p.m. on July 26 for orientation and Shelli’s “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field” presentation, head into the wilderness on the morning of July 27, return to Jackson Hole on the afternoon of July 31, and depart for home on Aug. 1)
WHO: Women who are in their “midlife,” and who are, or can get, into phenomenal health and fitness for the Epic wilderness adventure. Women who are looking to crank it up and change the conversation in their life. Women who want to do something daring and courageous and Epic. Women who want to see what’s possible for them and their life. Women who are looking to be inspired by nature’s spectacular sights and want to take stock of their life, gain clarity and to discover new possibilities in their life. (Up to 9 spots available)
WHAT: Program includes 3 personal coaching calls pre-adventure and 1 call post-adventure, Shelli’s inspirational presentation “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field,” the 5-day guided Epic Adventure, including learning the many necessary skills to live and travel in the wilderness, and training tips & recommendations. Upon signup, I will provide lodging information for July 26 and 31, logistical travel support and a recommended gear list. Signup and participation are contingent on a phone consultation and your health/medical condition.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:Email me for a brochure and to schedule a call to learn more.
Over the years, clients have asked me if I offer custom programs. I’m excited to offer Epic Weekender programs starting in 2020. Groups of leaders, or friend groups or family groups–any group planning a meetup somewhere to celebrate a special occasion or simply being together–may hire me to join them. I’ll share my inspiring “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field” and facilitate meaningful exercises and conversation focused on any of the Epic topics I provide coaching and work in, including but not limited to extensive guided self-reflection, daring to fail, how to be more courageous, mindset (we choose it and we can change it), the people and relationships in our life, self care, commitment, and more.
WHO: Groups of 6-20 who are planning an event or gathering and would like to make it extra special and unique. Work with me to make it meaningful, fun and unforgettable. I’m an expert trip and adventure planner, and an adventure guide so I can also propose a program based on your interests and criteria.
WHEN: I envision these programs to be Weekender programs, meaning Fri-Sunday, or Sat-Monday. However, except for Summer, with enough lead time and notice, I can also provide these on weekdays.
COST: Pricing will be custom, and determined based on the program we come up with and all that is involved. In many cases, once we have a vision for what you’d like me to help provide and facilitate for your group or event, you can propose a price for me to consider.
FOR MORE INFORMATION:Email me for a brochure and to schedule a call to learn more.
Epic Women, enjoying the sunrise from a beautiful perch. _______________________________________________________
CUSTOM EPIC WILDERNESS ADVENTURES
I can also provide any of my programs, or some variation of them, for custom groups. Email me, and together we can brainstorm an unforgettable adventure!
The greatest regret people have is that they don’t, or didn’t, have the courage to live the life they want to live. Too often we play it safe and live the life others expect us to live. But I’ve learned that we risk our life more when we don’t live it than when we play it safe. The first time I hired and worked with a coach was in 2006. I needed someone who wasn’t family, friend or colleague to keep me honest and hold my feet to the fire when it came to my personal values, goals, and the dreams I had for my life. The experience changed my life. As your coach, I can’t change your life, but I will inspire and help you to change it. I have coached men and women from throughout the United States, from all walks of life. I’m happy to put you in touch with anyone I’ve coached or worked with so you can talk to them firsthand about their experience in working with me as their coach. In fact, I recommend it! I take this work very seriously and I think I’m good at it, but I’m not the coach for everyone. It’s as important to me as it is to you that it’s a good fit. Below are some quotes from a small sampling of satisfied coaching clients.
COST: Depends on frequency, duration, and terms. Email me questions you have about coaching and/or to schedule an exploratory call with me.
My “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field” presentation is different from most keynote presentations. In the presentation, I share stunning wilderness images and stories about lessons learned in the wilderness. These lessons are not only mine but also lessons I’ve learned from leaders I’ve taken into the wilderness. These lessons are metaphors for the skills we need in order to live and lead our best life. I’ve been hired to deliver this presentation to various Publicis.Sapient offices throughout the U.S. as well as in London and Toronto, by Johnson & Johnson Women’s Leadership, Turner Networks, Arthur M Blank Family of Businesses, SunTrust Bank, Fiat-Chrysler’s Women’s Leadership Summit and various conferences. “Epic Lessons Learned in the Field” will light a fire in you. It will inspire you about your life and motivate you to be more courageous, purposeful, and creative in your life.
COST:Email me for pricing and/or to schedule a call to learn more.
BIO/ABOUT SHELLI:
I’m 51 years old and I’m married to Jerry (we celebrated our 27th anniversary this year). We have three sons, Wolf, 19, Hayden, 17, and Fin, 12, and a golden retriever named Buddy. I live on the frontier of Wyoming, in the town of Lander, which is situated in the foothills of the Wind River Range and home to 7,500 people.
Among other things, I’m an entrepreneur. Epic Life Inc is my second business. I started my first one, Yellowstone Journal Corporation, and YellowstonePark.com, in 1994, and sold it in 2008 to Active Interest Media, the company that owns Backpacker, Yoga Journal, Better Nutrition, and other lifestyle magazines.
I’m a certified life and leadership coach, keynote presenter, certified wilderness first responder, leadership facilitator, certified personal trainer, writer, and adventure guide. In the last eight years, I’ve coached >200 men and women from throughout the U.S. and I have guided and led even more on wilderness adventures. My biggest passions are travel, adventure, long-distance day hiking, reading, writing and travel blogging. My favorite thing to do is anything outdoors with my family and/or friends.
If you are looking to change your life, then I’m looking for you.
But first, a quick backstory: I’m 47 years old, and over the years, at various times, I have needed to change my life. Working with a life coach on several occasions has helped me to transform my life.
What is a life coach? That is a great question, and one that I get asked often.
Hi there.
My 7-year-old son, Finis (“Fin”), once explained, “my mom takes people up tall mountains, and also talks to people on the phone at night and makes money while doing it.” Both are true. I guide people up tall mountains when clients sign up for a guided Epic Adventure with me, and, I often have coaching calls with clients in the evening to accommodate their busy schedules, for which I am paid.
Most of all, I do help people climb tall mountains – but they are their mountains, not mine. In the last 5 years, I’ve worked with, and coached, more than 100 individuals in some capacity. I’ve worked with women, men, and leadership teams. I’ve learned a lot from the work, and the people I champion.
Epic Life Offerings...
I describe what I do this way: Someone who wants to, or has to, climb a tall mountain – i.e. make, or endure, a big change in their life – will often enlist me as a coach to help them make the climb. People hire me when they’re thinking about (metaphorically) climbing the mountain, or when they are at the base of said mountain. Often I get “called in” when they’re already en route up the mountain but they hit a particularly difficult patch and they feel they can’t go it alone. They want to stay the course, but could use some help. Rather than bailing and giving up on the climb, they hire me as their coach.
In other words, I’m not a helicopter that gets called in. I’m not in the rescue business. Rather, people hire me to help them lean in and stay and persevere through the hard part(s) of their life. I’m in the championing and “guiding” business.
I’d love to work with you, or your organization. Please check out this brochure or email me to schedule a call.
People ask me what I do. I tell them I’m a life coach. Instead of answering their question, this response often generates a confused look.
The confused then follow up by asking, What’s a life coach?
As a life coach, I encourage, and help, people to climb the mountains in their lives.
By the way, an epic life is not a perfect life. An epic life is a life lived on purpose. Living on purpose is not easy. If it were, everyone would be doing it.
To live on purpose is to experience struggle, sometimes frequently. It’s hard saying yes; it’s hard saying no; it’s hard letting people in; it’s hard setting boundaries; it’s hard doing the right thing; it’s hard honoring your values 24/7; it’s hard to work less; it’s hard to honor all the relationships that matter to you. The list goes on for all the choices one must make in order to live his or her best (epic) life.
The fact is, living a meaningful life is hard. This is not bad news.
Most of us don’t want to do difficult things. I understand this. I often don’t want to, either, despite my understanding for the point in doing them. But I would argue that it is not despite hardship that we grow. It is often because of it.
In life, there are mountains to climb, some of them seemingly insurmountable.
As a life coach, my mission is to inspire and encourage others to choose to climb these mountains and to support them in the process. I believe that, in most cases, what is on the other side is worth it. I believe this with all of my might. (But, at the very least, the views are better from up high, and you become more skillful and experienced at climbing mountains and enduring struggle. You become more as a result of your climbs.)
So, that’s the best way I can describe what I do. And, it is an honor for me to do this work. Thank you for your support. I am grateful.
(Next up: Tools for discovering your life’s purpose. It is fun and important work to do.)